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Advice on Guitar effects ?

Please someone help me, Im tired of sounding like s**t when I play.
I have a Peavey Vypyr 75wt amp with all sorts of effects built in but it sounds so digital I cant stand it.
If I play a solo it the notes almost sound like digital beeps. Im playing a 5 thousand dollar guitar so thats not the problem. I play Classic Metal and 80s metal. I really want a good distortion similiar to Randy Rhoads. So what effects or processors are out there that you would recommend ? I want something that will sound "Real" and high quality too. Any price range. Preferabally over $200 atleast. Id just love to be able to play a fast solo and be able to hear what im playing instead of hearing feedback etc...
please help

You have a $5000 guitar, and a cheap $250 amp? WHY!?!?! Those Vypyrs are the worst rated amp on the market... seriously. It even has a rating far worse than the Marshall MG amps. A good guitar with nice pickups will still sound bad in a bad amp... and just because your guitar is 5K, doesn't mean the pickups are right for you.

To play metal, you'll need pickups that are high output. For example. I bought a nice set of PRS pickups that everyone RAVES about called 58/08's. I installed them, and yeah, they sound great. I've never heard a pickup so clear, BUT, they were a vintage sound trying to recreate the original 1958 Gibson pickups or something like that. They were expensive. I ended up selling the pair for $630.... which is insane and make me feel like I ripped the guy off that I bought them from for $200... hahaha. I'll stick with the PRS HFS/Vintage combo, or my Dimarzio's and save $450... lol.

Anyways, my point is, just because you brag about a $5000 guitar, doesn't mean it's right for the style you're playing.

As far as amps go, you'll want a tube amp for the best tone. If you're going to be playing in a band, I would recommend one between 35 and 85 watts MAX, with usually 50 watts being the standard for local bands right now. If you go solid state, you'll probably want over 100 watts.

If you have money to blow, then buy either a Mesa Mark IV or the newer Mark V to get a good 80's metal tone. It's similar to what Metallica used on the Master of Puppets, And Justice for All and Black albums. If you want more of a British 80's tone, like Slash or EVH or earlier Metallica like the Ride the Lightning album, go with a used Marshall JCM800. If you want a new amp, look into Diezel or Bogner and possibly Orange amps. Mesa Mark IV's and V's are going between $1400 used, and $1900 new. Diezel are probably as expensive as your guitar. Orange amps, are probably going to be around $2000 as well. If you want a cheaper amp, go with the Peavey 5150 or 6505.

If you want a practice amp, I would recommend a small 15 watt or less tube amp. Orange makes a good one. There are others, but I'm not sure which ones are good anymore.

Effects: I hate Hate HATE effects processors. I like having foot pedal effects. There isn't one processor that does every effect well. Line 6 does delay's well, but everything else sucks. get a good pedal board and start building your own board up. I recommend that everyone get an EQ, if your amp doesn't have it for starters... (the Mark IV and V have on board EQ's so you don't need it)

A typical pedal board is going to consist of the following:
EQ (I recommend MXR 10 band EQ)
Noise Suppressor (If you run a lot of gain/distortion, the only one to get is an ISP Decimator)
Compressor/Sustainer (Boss CS-2 or modded CS-3)
-------- wait a sec., these aren't real effects, but they are a must have if you're going to play live, or if you really want a pro sound. The EQ will fine tune your tone, and allow for scoop'd mids. The Noise suppressor will take out all unwanted noise and feedback. The Compressor/Sustainer will lightly compress your tone making it more even, and also add wanted sustain when you need it.

Now, onto the actual effects:
Delay (everyone needs a delay. I have 2. Analog is the best, but expensive).
Distortion/Overdrive (This is subjective, there are good cheap ones, and expensive ones too.)
Wah pedal (gotta have for those solo's)
Reverb (standard on most amps, but a good one would be the EH Holy Grail)
--- These should be on most pedal boards as well. For delay, make sure it has a 'mix' feature that allows you to mix it into the background. Turn it on with around a 35% mix and play solo's with a moderate paced repeat. A lot of metal players use it. You can hear it in the background of the tone quite often.

Modulation effects:
Flanger
Chorus
Tremolo
--- delay is a modulation effect too. All these should be in the effects loop of your amp. I recommend having 1 to play with. I like Boss Flangers cuz they give that airplane sound, and then I like Tremolo's too, as they can do some cool Pink Floyd type things too.

To sum it up. You can't get a "real" tone from "fake"/digital amps that claim to recreate a tone. For one, a lot of these expensive tube amps get their best tone when cranked at high volumes, which can't be recreated.... period. What our ears hear is different from solid state to digital to tube amps.

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